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February 28, 2011

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donnamcm

You are right--about all of it, Roz. I quit using a pencil to draw with about 2 years ago--best thing I ever did. I initially quit because I was hating the graphite smearing all over my sketches. Once you get over the fear of drawing in ink, you will never go back to pencil. People who see me drawing and are amazed that I draw in ink always ask me, "what if you make a mistake" to which I reply "so what". That's the key, so what, who cares?

Good topic.

Judith

Hi Roz-I think it was me you encouraged to just get on with it. And I have. Every time I pick up my pen now,I hear you.
Great post. It is humbling misplacing line after line, but as you said, the sheer joy of getting just a little bit right is wonderful. Thanks for pushing me into the pen sketching pool-I am waving, not drowning, and starting to have such fun.

Linda

Good morning Roz, this direct sketching is just what I needed to read. Since teaching myself I do page after page trying to get where you have written about. Dont have the memory thing down yet when I go back and forth at looking get confused when I do this. Put practice has really helped me so with my art. Drawing with ball point just getting fountain pen down but ink comes out to fast so have to practice. Thank you so for having this for us helps so.
Have a great day,
Linda

Terry

People are always surprised to see me sketching in pen. Thank you for such a great post!

Roz Stendahl

Donna, "who cares" is right. It says something about the state of mind of the observer, the one watching you draw, and how bottled up they are. While we get to sketch away!

Roz Stendahl

Judith, yes, I remember it was you! I'm glad that you have jumped in and are having fun!!!! Keep sketching in ink.

Roz Stendahl

Linda, the "memory thing" you refer to will come if you keep working regularly as you are. The confusion will pass. You'll find points to lock into, you'll find ways to orient yourself on that blank page. All pens are going to be a slightly different approach, as you've found between ball point and fountain. Dip pen is also different in that you have to take time to dip and get more ink and manage that ink as you draw. But it is the most fun of all as far as I am concerned.

Keep it up.

Roz Stendahl

Terry, keep surprising everyone. It's good for them. And it's great for you to be working in pen.

Leslie Schramm

Love the 10 steps. I use a camera a lot, I remember the moment of shock when a photo popped up on the screen I had absolutely no memory of taking, no memory of the location, or even the day it was taken. I;ve worked harder at looking around ever since ( not going to even mention the line of trees I;d never noticed before ) Often we see without observing. Ask any archeologist why they always draw a dig. Because that way they spend time looking at what's there, examining it and making sense of it all, often coming to a new understanding of whats in front of them. I;ve tried to do that ever since. Def improving at drawing

Maggie

I find I go back and forth; sometimes all I want is the pencil, but other times I toss it aside for a pen. I even sometimes sketch in charcoal. What a mess that makes! But I don't mind messes. Sometimes I'll revisit the mess later, and work it over with an eraser. That's fun too.

I guess it depends on what I'm after. Charcoal and pencil I would use when I'm in a value/tone mood, and don't want to spend time stippling, crosshatching, or whatever with the pen. And I use them on days when I need a more forgiving material.

But the pen is great for days when I'm feeling decisive, bold, and daring. Those marks just cannot be denied!

Roz Stendahl

Maggie, don't get me wrong, I have nothing against pencil as a medium for sketching. I love it on its own.

See http://www.rozworks.com/y1_3.html
I wouldn't have achieved the same look if I'd worked in ink.

But when I use pencil I like to use pencil. When I use ink, I like to use ink with NO pencil before hand.

I'm writing to encourage people to let go of pre-drawing with a pencil before their ink drawing.

If people draw with a pencil (or charcoal) and it gives the look they like, I'm all for that.

Linda

Roz, Thanks so for the comments would not have any idea about the memory thing So Ill keep going my happy way and practice this gives me so much hope. Journal keeping and art has gotten me through so much and a blessing to have:)Keep up the hints and words cause you have given so much for me to learn from.:)Wish you were in Pittsburgh:)
Have a great day,
Linda

Timaree (freebird)

I just got my Pentel Pocket Brush Pen today! And I came here to see if you use the ink that they come with. I found this most appropriate post about diving in - gulp. So I'll look around and see what you say about ink if I can find anything and then I'll go practice drawing straight away with the ink. Might have to do some practice lines to see how the pen works first.

Roz Stendahl

Timaree: Congratulations on your new PPBP!! What fun. There is nothing like those first few exploratory strokes.

I do use the ink that comes in its cartridges. I find that the ink is lightfast in my tests, and I find it waterproof on most papers (some papers with lots of sizing float the ink for a longer period and then I have to be careful how quickly I go back in with watercolor washes, but generally this isn't a problem).

I do have one friend who fills an empty cartridge with a syringe and the ink he uses is a technical pen india ink that he thinks is more waterproof. It may be, but I wonder if it might also clog the brush over time. And then there is the possibility of leakage when you reuse a cartridge like that.

Point is, it can be done, I haven't found the need.

Have great fun with your new brush pen!!!!!

carol sloan

Roz- I have always sketched with my pen (yay!) and when I tried to go abck to a pencil - it was very difficult for me. I love, love learning while sketching with a pen. I always say (to my own art students) that you commit to the drawing when you draw with pen. You figure out how to make it work (hopefully) rather than erasing it time and time again. You learn more...and learn better...loving your blog!
carol sloan

Roz Stendahl

Carol, Yay! Sorry though that it's difficult when you use pencil, because that can be fun too (for a different look). The committing to a line is huge, we help ourselves see where to go next. Keep spreading the word.

Tom Winterstein

Roz,

I guess I did it backward. I've always drawn in pen and ink without penciling first. I had to teach myself to do it the other way when I wanted to do some ink drawings rather than sketches. The most important thing to do when sketching is to turn off the inner critic and remember that sometimes sketches work and sometimes they don't, which is what I tell people when they go through my sketchbooks.

Roz Stendahl

Tom, there's nothing backwards about the way you learned to draw. I think the resultant drawings look more alive. It always frustrates me when I have to refine a drawing and then re-ink it. I'm "over it" by the time I get to that point—but. That's my bit to work on.

People are lucky to look in your sketchbooks, I wouldn't say anything to them!

But turning off the internal critic is always a good idea.

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