Roz's Website

  • RozWorks.com
    Visit my website to view journal selections, paintings, book arts projects, and to learn about classes and workshops.

Copyright Notice

  • All text and images ©Roz Stendahl. All rights reserved. Contact me at rozjournalrat@gmail.com for permission to use. You have my OK to quote images or text on your non-commercial blog, or website as long as you give a credit and link back. Work of a reviewed or featured artist is copyrighted by that artist.
Follow RozStendahl on Twitter

Podcasts with Roz

  • Danny Gregory and I Discuss Visual Journaling
    From May 2008: Part one of a two-part podcast. Danny Gregory, author of "An Illustrated Life," talks to me about journaling, art media, and materials…The second part is in the same location. Be sure to check out the great interviews he does with other artists included in his book!
  • Finding Bits of Time
    Ricë Freeman-Zachery, author of "Creative Time and Space," talks to me about finding time to be creative. (Taped October 23, 2009.)

  • Add to Technorati Favorites
Blog powered by TypePad
Related Posts with Thumbnails

« Gouache Pears and Collage with Patterned Paper | Main | Report on the MCBA Visual Journal Collective November Meeting »

November 16, 2009

TrackBack

TrackBack URL for this entry:
http://www.typepad.com/services/trackback/6a01053560de5d970b012875a1ae78970c

Listed below are links to weblogs that reference Fun of the Best Kind: Work—Choosing a Palette:

Comments

Feed You can follow this conversation by subscribing to the comment feed for this post.

Robbie

I first found you via Danny Gregory ages ago. I'm not sure I have ever commented but this entry was so thoughtful and thought provoking that I wanted to take the time to thank you. Thank you for encouraging people through their journey.

Melanie

Wow. Fantastic post. This is why I am drawn to your blog.
I just got back from the paint store and bought most of the paints you suggest in the post we spoke about earlier. I did supplement with some colors that I tend to 'go to' on a regular basis. I also left a few pans open for later fill in, I have space for 14 paints in the box I will be using.
I also tried to get a Pentel Pocket Brush Pen, though they only had the Color Brush, so I held off. I bet the Japanese Bookstore might have that one.
Thank you so much for being so thoughtful and specific. It really is helpful. Especially since I am wanting to move away from my cheap paints.

Melanie

P.S. I bought the Burnt Sienna based on your statement about choosing a palette based on what I like to paint, birds. Sp. Thanks again.

Chris F

And oddly based on purely my gut reaction to your swatches, none of them look like what I think of as Burnt Sienna. LOL well... maybe the Holbein gouache sample.... A, B, and D are waaay off to my eye. F is garish.
Oh well...shows you how subjective color is.

Roz

Thanks Robbie, I'm glad you enjoy the blog and found this helpful!

Roz

Melanie, so glad that you are moving to some better quality paints, you're going to have so much more fun! It's good to have some open spots in your palette too, because after you live with your current selection and go and sketch at a number of venues the "omissions" will jump right out at you. (I had this happen when I went to the conservatory with a scaled back palette of colored pencils—a travel palette I was testing—and discovered I didn't have a orange red!

I'm glad you held off on the brush pen until you can get a Pentel Pocket Brush Pen (which by the way you can get from Wet Paint if you can't find one where you are. WP will do mail order; get extra cartridges when you order because you are going to love it so much you'll need them!) The problem with the COLOR BRUSH is that the ink in it is not lightfast. The fun thing about it is that the ink is watersoluble so upon occasion I play with it in my journal, but I really recommend the Pentel Pocket Brush as a serious tool. (I wrote a post on these which you can look at here: http://rozwoundup.typepad.com/roz_wound_up/2009/01/pentel-brush-pens-the-pocket-brush-and-the-color-brush.html

Roz

Chris, I don't think this is odd at all. First I had a lot of trouble correcting this image even though I scanned it with a gray scale card. (The paper was all buckled as it's only a 90 lb. watercolor paper and I had to put a heavy book on top of it and not close the scanner—but drape it, still I think light gets in.) Second, your screen is assuredly set up differently…and so it goes.

But what I find really, really odd is that I use the Schmincke and M.Graham Burnt Sienna gouache interchangeably, though I lean towards Schmincke the past year, and there is a huge difference between them compared side to side, yet when I mix them I can get the same ranges, or close enough. I had never bothered to do a side by side comparison of the two, which is very, very odd for me.

E-J

What a great post, Roz.

I still have only limited experience in colour mixing/limited palettes because most of my art has been made in soft pastels or oil pastels, with an inventory of hundreds of colours and not relying much on blending. But I sketch in watercolour and gouache, and know that I need to get to know my choices better.

I did realise a couple of years back that I didn't actually need my "favourite" half-pan of sap green, which had been sitting in the tin practically unused for about 10 years! I replaced it with Winsor Green (Blue Shade) and am now much better prepared for mixing good greens.

You have now made me rethink my desperate need for Daniel Smith's Lunar Blue ...

I have linked to this post (as I did with your podcast interview) from Twitter.

Roz

E-J, I'm glad the post was helpful. I LOVE Daniel Smith Watercolors. I think they are the best in the world. But I also know there are a lot of colors we may crave, but we can really do without. Great going, getting rid of sap green and finding something more useful for your needs.

Katy

Very helpful post, Roz! It motivates me to ask a question I have been considering asking you for some time: If I wanted to try out M. Graham gouache and could only buy three or four tubes, which ones would you recommend? Ultramarine and burnt sienna seem to be given, but I can't decide which red and yellow would be best. What are your thoughts on this?

Thanks!
Katy

Roz

Katy, if you can only get 3 or 4 tubes I wouldn't get Burnt Sienna. You pretty much have to stick with primaries at that point.

You can find their color chart http://www.mgraham.com/html/technical.asp and that gives whether it is available in Acrylic, Gouache, Oil, or/and Watercolor with the initials AGOW as appropriate.

If they had Anthraquinone Blue in Gouache WHICH THEY DON'T it would be a no-brainer, but sadly, SIGH, you'll have to go with something like Ultramarine blue, and then for your red and yellow you could do Gamboge and Cad Red if you don't mind Cadmiums (a fairly traditional 3-color palette choice; though you'll see Gamboge is made of 2 pigments and that might put you off).

Or you could pair Ultramarine Blue with Azo or Hansa Yellow and Napthol Red or Pyrrol Red.

It really depends on the direction you want to go with your work. I recommend that you get a good book on color theory, as suggested in the post, and look at the examples they provide of the different 3 primary color palettes and expanded palettes (any good book will show a chart and also some painted examples) and see which are directions you want to go in your art and then start with those three pigments, work with them and build from there. Have fun discovering what colors you love.

Roz

Katy, a short p.s. to your question. Someone wrote to me off-blog about a color choice I'd written about awhile back. It isn't gouache, it's watercolor, but the swatches will give you an idea of what to think about when you select your three tubes of paint.
http://rozwoundup.typepad.com/roz_wound_up/2009/04/another-way-to-approach-terra-rosa-from-m-graham.html

Wendi

Roz! AWESOME post!! EXTREMELY helpful. Came across this while googling M. Graham Gouache. After reading your post over on Kate's Artist Journal Workshop blog I am saving up my $$ and holding out for the M. Graham! I can't wait to try it. In the meantime I am reading everything I can and googling images for ispiration. Thank you!
:o) Wendi

Roz Stendahl

Wendi I'm so glad that you're going to give gouache a try! You'll have fun with M. Graham. Good luck with your adventure.

Leslie Schramm

Oh dear Roz, I like a lot of colours around; however I decided to look at what I actually use a lot of rather than I actually have in the main palette. Bayrte Yellow from Kremer, plus Daniel Smiths Buff titanium white, for all the soft creamy colours of wild flowers, plus winsor Yellow, for those Spring daffodils.DS's New Gamboge and Old Hollands Golden Barok Red, the GBR is a perfect terracotta and with a touch of paynes grey when very dilute makes that faded garden pot colour just perfectly.All sorts of Cadmiums Reds but it's Umpton Barvy's ( Kremer pigments)Cadmium Purple that's getting worn away, along with Perylene Maroon. Ceruleum , Cobalt Atlantic ( that's a touch greener than usual) And DS's Indranthone Blue. A few greens, Vert Paulo Veronese, Cupric Green Kremers Cobalt Green Bluish A ( the colour of the Glasgow School's crazy obsession with cabbages!! ) , and M. Grahams Viridian which with I.Blue does good dark shadows. Also worn out are DS,s Monte Amiata Sienna, and Lunar earth, but the burnt yellow ochre hardly gets touched. Schminke's wonderful purple magenta, the slightly odd Ultramarine pink and manganese violet and Payne's grey all get used. Don;t think the black has ever been used; perhaps a drainpipe on an olde worlde building, and the white; perhaps a bird's eye. Terrible confession number one, two mixtures, a lilac from Shinhan and a Leaf green from Daler-Rowney. Terrible confession number two. I don;t like Ultramarine, I find it too bright; perhaps poor old soggy Scotland just doesn';t get those sorts of blue skies.

Roz Stendahl

Leslie, it is always fun to hear what other folks are using for colors on their palettes. I haven't used any of the Kremer paints, though I was intrigued when I first heard about them through chats on Everyday Matters List between Kate Johnson and Laura Frankstone. I hope some day to get to NYC and visit the store!

I find it very interesting that your list contains a lot of neutralized colors. I tend to use such colors as well. I can't blame a soggy climate however. It's just the way my eyes work. (I've lived in the tropics and Australia where I've had both sun and rainy days.) I think it also might be that I like Arthor Ransome's work which in the print editions I've seen is always rather subdued.

But I keep playing with things!

Oh, and I don't like French Ultramarine Blue either! Though I have been playing with it lately in gouache.

We get some lovely blue skies in winter, but it isn't quite that color.

Verify your Comment

Previewing your Comment

This is only a preview. Your comment has not yet been posted.

Working...
Your comment could not be posted. Error type:
Your comment has been posted. Post another comment

The letters and numbers you entered did not match the image. Please try again.

As a final step before posting your comment, enter the letters and numbers you see in the image below. This prevents automated programs from posting comments.

Having trouble reading this image? View an alternate.

Working...

Post a comment